Minutes of the FIGGY BAR RT Conference.

   Open FIGGY BAR of 28 Dec 1989. Items discussed include: CSI dropping Amiga
   support, February SIGForth ACM Dallas bash, E. Rather in conf 18 Jan, RTX
   contest kits go out, parallel desk-top Forth for <$800 !, Tiles, cf83 
   upgrade, X3/J14 in San Diego, MIMD, SIMD, Parallel Distributed Processing.

Date: 12/28/89   Time: 22:32EST
Attendees:
[[Gary] GARY-S]
[[Dave] OLORIN]
[[Irving] I.MONTANEZ]
[[Wil] W.BADEN1]
[[Len] NMORGENSTERN]
[[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS]
[[Kevin] APPERT]
[[Dennis] D.RUFFER]

Minutes:
<OLORIN> is here.
<I.MONTANEZ> is here.
<I.MONTANEZ> WHATS NEW?
<[Gary] GARY-S> What are you running on - a PC ?
<I.MONTANEZ> NO I AM USING AN AMIGA MODEL 1000
<[Dave] OLORIN> Where's Jax when we need him. (sigh)
<[Gary] GARY-S> what Forth do you have on it ?
<I.MONTANEZ> I USE JFORTH AND MULTIFORTH
<[Gary] GARY-S> Jax would love you ! He preaches j-forth
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> is here.
<I.MONTANEZ> I I UNDERSTAND THAT MULTIFORTH FOR THE AMIGA WILL NOT BE 
SUSURPORTED BY CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.
<[Gary] GARY-S> REALLLY ??? I hadn't heard that ! What is the reason ?
<I.MONTANEZ> I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO USE THER RESOURCES FOR THE MAC.
<NMORGENSTERN> is here.
<[Dave] OLORIN> So who'all will be at this February's SIGForth Conference?
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> I am making reservations now
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> <magic. I come in & all is silence!>
<[Dave] OLORIN> (Needs to write a paper in the next two days)
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> What topic?
<[Dave] OLORIN> (Sigh) (Procrastination -- makes life *Hell*)
<[Dave] OLORIN> I'm doing a detailed paper on the OO4th package.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Design and implementation.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> I'm going to quit proctastinating, starting tomorrow.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> What is 004th package?
<[Dave] OLORIN> The Object Oriented Forth I wrote.
<[Gary] GARY-S> no topic tonite - start one if you're mean enuff
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> I'v just checked CSI Fall catalog and only Mac products listed.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Aah
<FIGCHAPTERS> is here.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Topic seems to be MultiForth and the Amiga.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> << JForth
<[Gary] GARY-S> Montanez - ask jax , he should know if your rumour is fact
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> well said, wil!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Hi I.Montanez! MultiForth?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> <<< Honk If You Love Parallel Desktop Computers 
for $800.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> What Rumour, I.M.?
<[Gary] GARY-S> CSI dropping multiforth support ??? is that true
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I heard *something* don't recall if that was it.
<I.MONTANEZ> The rumour was that creative solution was dropping surport for 
the amiga.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> They certainly aren't doing much to prop it up.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> JForth works better.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Remember: RTX Contest Kits should be going out next week!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> It's hard to compete with JForth in a market which 
doesn't buy much Amiga Forth.
<[Dave] OLORIN> (has a project all ready and can't wait for an RTX up and going)
<[Gary] GARY-S> Dojun was asking about them on BCFB last nite
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> <<< wasn't kidding about desktop parallel.
<I.MONTANEZ> I know , I prefer jforth . Its an excellent environment.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> It's real FOrthy and real Amiga-y at the same time.
<I.MONTANEZ> Thats right
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Can you talk about your project, Dave?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> MultiForth is klunky by comparison.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Uhh.... after I get Harris to approve it and send me the 
freebie board.
<I.MONTANEZ> Thats a fact.
<[Gary] GARY-S> jax - have you seen Mitch's upgrade of cforth83 for *nix ?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Are any of your files uploaded here, I.M.?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> No, Gars, make sure I have a copy!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> SO I can install on WELL.
<I.MONTANEZ> no not yet!
<[Dave] OLORIN> Tile forth looks damned impressive from what (limited playing 
time) I've seen!
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> PMI, what is *nix??
<[Gary] GARY-S> drop e-mail to mitch
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Dave, I can't get it to compile!
<[Dave] OLORIN> Local variables, modules, all sorts of hooks, docs, etc etc etc.
<[Gary] GARY-S> Unix without trademark disclaimers
<[Dave] OLORIN> Compiled in one fell make on a Sun.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> YOU SAID THE U WORD!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS>  :-)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Yeah, on the *SUN* ... what about under BSD? But 
N-o-o-o-o ....
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> <figured it out> :-}
<[Gary] GARY-S> UNIX is a trademark of AT&T - this conversation not affiliated 
with AT&T
<[Dave] OLORIN> Sun's *are* BSD.
<[Gary] GARY-S> cforth83 actually prefers BSD
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> (No, jax. He didn't say it, he referenced it.)
<[Dave] OLORIN> (or rather, BSD descended)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> "IF AT&T Marketing Division owned Kentucky Fried ..
<[Dave] OLORIN> "Hot Dead Fowl"
<[Gary] GARY-S> hot dead chicken
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> The sign outside would say 'Hot, Dead Birds"
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> old net joke.
<[Kevin] APPERT> is here.
<I.MONTANEZ> I am not quite sure on the proceure for participaating in these 
conferences. How do I terminate my answers
<[Dave] OLORIN> Or Grease Dipped Poultry
<[Gary] GARY-S> Think of Sun os as BSD 4.4
<[Dave] OLORIN> Applause!
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> :-}}}}}} = Santa Claus
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Subtly, I.M. Subtly.
<[Gary] GARY-S> hahaha
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> ( ... at end of line . on line by itself to end)
<[Kevin] APPERT> are you sure you are not sureal, Jax?
<[Dave] OLORIN> I.M.: With a small caliber gun.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> A tonka toy, Kevin, a brightly-coloured tonka toy.
<I.MONTANEZ> you guys will have to bear with me as I go through the learing 
process.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> well, watch that leering!  :-)
<[Gary] GARY-S> The interlacing is what you have to adjust to
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS>  You know Mr. Smiley, right, and his Cousins?
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> (I.M., I quite sympathise with you.  It's exhausting at first.)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS>  :-) :-/ ==:-\ :-} etc etc etc
<[Dave] OLORIN> Nothing like a nice reflex learning curve.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> The smiley face is half of telecom.
<I.MONTANEZ> I hope that I will have a command of the mechanics of this type of 
conversing in the not to distant future/irving
<[Dave] OLORIN> Heah. Emacs macros. Bind IMHO, BTW, (grin), :-), etc to keys.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> The occupational hazard of this sort of thing is 
repetetive motion syndrome in the fingers!
<[Kevin] APPERT> Forth anyone?
<[Kevin] APPERT> I.M., do you use Forth?
<[Dave] OLORIN> (Has never had hand/finger/typing problems -- other than the 
occasional broken finger)
<[Kevin] APPERT> that's what you get for using strongly typed languages, dave
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> ouch!
<[Dave] OLORIN> When have I used a strongly typed language by choice?
<[Gary] GARY-S> oh no kev
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> yes I have been working with jforth for about a year.  I 
have also used f83 for the pc
<[Dave] OLORIN> (Strong Typed Languages are for Programmers with Weak Minds)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS>  :-) ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> just testing my key bindings, ignore me.
<[Dave] OLORIN> alt.sex.bondage.keys.emacs?
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Len, are you going to ANSI San Diego?
<[Dave] OLORIN> Alt-Meta-Whips-And-Chains?
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> No, Wil, can't make it.
<[Dave] OLORIN> (Key bondage)
<[Gary] GARY-S> REMINDER - Thursday January 18, Elizabeth Rather will be our 
special conference guest
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Is she into key bindings, too?
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Ski bindings?
<[Gary] GARY-S> ask the lady yourself
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> What is key binding?
<[Kevin] APPERT> give me you address, and I'll send you a copy of FPC for the 
PC.  Descendant of F*# with seperated heads and FILES instead of BLOCKS
(F*#=F83 for those who have not had to deal with it)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Many programs allow you to associate single keys 
with multiple keystrokes ...
<[Gary] GARY-S> kev - have you tried BBL ?
<[Gary] GARY-S> amazzzzzzzing
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Foof.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Well, Jax, are YOU going to X3j14?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Foof.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> it's a key binding.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Will ...
<[Dave] OLORIN> Emacs allows you to equate multiple keys with multiple 
keystrokes. (grin) Emacas feels like playing chords.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I am trying to set it up
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I gotta rig up funding ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> So trying to sell book for advance.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> My intention currently is to attend.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> that is, to start attending regularly.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> But to pull that off jax is going to have to 
become Jax Enterprises, as it were
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> You'll enjoy it.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Guess I will, Wil.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Jax Inc.?
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> Is anyone attending the Real Time Forth Apllications 
Workshop in Dallas, Tx on Feb 16-18, 1990?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> It's nice to know one has a voice in one's own 
career!
<[Dave] OLORIN> Yes!
<[Dave] OLORIN> That's the SIGForth Conference. Haven't missed one yet. (grin)
<[Gary] GARY-S> you better not !
<[Dave] OLORIN> Although it was easier to get to last year.... (grin)
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I look forward to meeting you there.
<[Gary] GARY-S> If you get SIGForth newsletter look for Dave in the 
credits/officers list
<[Dave] OLORIN> Besides... maybe I can find out what exactly it is that a Local 
Chapter Coordinator does... (grin)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Depends on the Chap COord.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Here in Denver we are really getting into the 
swing of regular meetings.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> January 8 ...
<[Dave] OLORIN> No. I mean Coordinator of all of the local sigs.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> We will have Joe Gradecki demonstrating ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> his desktop parallel Forth machine! 16 processors 
in a cube ...
<[Dave] OLORIN> Oooooooh. What kind of processor?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> and he plans to sell it in PCB kits for $800 
including Forth op system! ...
<[Dave] OLORIN> Parts all included?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Think he used something like an 8502
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Congratulations, Jax.  You finally have our undivided interest.
  Go.
<[Gary] GARY-S> how about sending out a few demo units - I'll volunteer :-)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Not sure.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I wrote an article in 1988 for MicroTimes ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> in which I predicted desktop parallel by 1996 ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> here it comes. ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> will tell you more after jax *sees* the damn thing!
 He's bringing it along to the meeting. ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> me too, gars!
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I only have the 1st issure of Sigforth newsleletter, and 
I don' seed Daves name there.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Tell him I'll trade him a used Iris for one if he pays shipping.
 As-Is.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Inside front cover.
<[Dave] OLORIN> (No monitor. No devices. Ethernet card and graphics board 
though) (grin)
<[Gary] GARY-S> The name you're looking for is Weinstein - not olorin
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Why not drive up for the meeting? We're only 12 
hours away, Dave!  :-)
<[Dave] OLORIN> Me and what mode of transportation, Jax? There's a reason I 
live walking distance from work.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Well, if you are going to walk you had better 
start soon, the meetings only a week and a half away.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> O.K I see it.  I sent you some electronic 
mail a few weeks ago about the regulations for starting a local sigforth
 on Long Island.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Did you all hear the Ancient Greek joke?
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> Has anyone received the 2nd issure of the Sigforth 
newsletter
<[Gary] GARY-S> yes
<[Kevin] APPERT> yup
<[Dave] OLORIN> Didn't you get a reply?
<[Dave] OLORIN> My employer did. I didn't. I read it there.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Guy walks into an Athens tailor shop. Hands tailor 
a pair of pants. Tailor examines them, looks up, "Euripides?" "Yeah, E
umenides?" :-)
<[Dave] OLORIN> Eugodabekidding
<[Gary] GARY-S> arrrgh
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> Yes I did.  and we have formed a groupas under the 
umbrella of the local acm sig.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Good. As far as I know, you have the distinction of being the 
first local SIG.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> This meeting of Denver FIG I will take good notes 
and post a full report. This is going to be the hot meeting of the year
!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Maybe pictures for a magazine article.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> How do I keep track of what I am typing my sentences seem 
to come out wrong?
<[Gary] GARY-S> ignore the garbage on your screen
<[Kevin] APPERT> you need a comm package with a split screen, I.M.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> o.k
<[Kevin] APPERT> so you can keep the prattle straight from your pearls.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Don't worry, typos are a major stimulus to the 
conversation here.
<D.RUFFER> is here.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I am presently using a packgae called Diga.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Hi Dennis.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Before I got split screen I used to close my eyes when typing.
<[Kevin] APPERT> what kinda computer, I.M.?
<[Gary] GARY-S> yeah - what do you care if some poor sysop has to glue the 
edges togethjer
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Irving, Access! has split screen
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I am using an Amiga 1000.
<[Kevin] APPERT> or write one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<[Gary] GARY-S> Dennis - big visit of the year ?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Desktop parallel for $800 U-Build-It from Kit, 
FORTH operating system!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> How about them appletrons, Dennis?
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I going to look into the Access, thanks.
<[Dave] OLORIN> Hullo Dennis, you Alladin user you.
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> big visit?  just home on time for once
<[Gary] GARY-S> You better be here in three weeks Druffer !!! :-)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> That's shareware, Irving.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Also that other one, what's it called?
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> Is it on Genie>
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Dennis, are you at home?
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> or compuserve
<[Gary] GARY-S> yes - m616 to the IBMPC library
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> actually, I'll be hand holding at work for your guest
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> yes I'm at home Wil...Why?
<[Gary] GARY-S> really - I didn't know management was that personal at FInc
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> JRComm is the other one, Irving.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> I want to call you after this RTC.
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> :-)  I'll have to figure out how to get two lines out so I 
can talk also
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I think both are on page 556 here on GEnie.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Irv, do you post to page 670?
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> ok Wil, I'll be home
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> no. Whats on page 670?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> That's the Amiga Programmers page.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> CATegory 9 has several Forth topics.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Y'all here, Gars, others, should occasionally MOVE 
670;1 and go to category 9 for the Forth topics.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Jax, did you give details on the parallel computer while I 
was gone?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> A little.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I just beginning to explore the benefits of Genie.  I 
will spend sometime in these areas as I become more familiar with the system.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Here's the scoop.
<[Gary] GARY-S> how about moving some of the forth files to page 711 ?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> There is a grad student Joseph Gradecki ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> He has built a 16-proc parallel desktop he runs 
off his IBM ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> He is going to bring it and speak about it to the 
next Denver FIG meeting  ...
<[Kevin] APPERT> does it cost anything to answer YES when they say   you are 
not a member WANNA JOIN?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> He says he is laying out PCB's  ...
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> that's just a formality kevin
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> and will sell same as Kit including Forth 
operating system for ~~$800  ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> he calls it  ...
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> except in the cases where the rt is closed..of course
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> PPD ( Personal Parallel Desktop )
<[Kevin] APPERT> what kinda processor * 16, Jax?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I thinks it's 8502 or something like that.
<[Kevin] APPERT> 16 times nothing is still nothing
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Wrong, kemosabe.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> With parallel, as I understand it, you don't need much.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> You don't need BCD instructions if you've got a 
16-proc Hypercube.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> MIMD or SIMD?
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Explain, Wil
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> IDN
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> ( I DuNno.)
<[Gary] GARY-S> why IDN ?
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> supra.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Multi Instruction Singular Data.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> All I know is that this guy is on the right path.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Single Instr, Multiple Data.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Thanx
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Remember, the NASA MPP was 16,384 ONE BIT 
PROCESSORS.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> So you really don't need much individual proc 
power to do Neat Things.
<[Gary] GARY-S> Jax - do you remeber when the FIGGY was that you, Ting and I 
were discussing MIMD SIMD ? (actually more you and Ting) approx date ?
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> The JPL hypercube is MIMD, and is very difficult to program.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> At least a year ago. I'd say August 88.
<[Gary] GARY-S> Len - I think I used MIMD and SIMD in the keywords - try 
searching on both in library 1
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Goddard is SIMD.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Will do, Gary
<[Gary] GARY-S> Ting maintains MIMD is wasted architecture
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> RIght. Also, distributed is pretty neet too.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I build distributed realtime systems using a 
multidrop serial net.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> The SEQUENT BALANCE computer allows up to 8 ( 16?) 
NSC32000's per machine ...
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Interesting problem of how to handle conditionals in SIMD.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> runs Unix, the task queue just deals out new jobs 
like a Vegas stud game.
<[Gary] GARY-S> GREAT BOOK (two actually) 'Parallel Distributed Processing' 
by McClelland, Rumelhart - MIT Press
<[Kevin] APPERT> you can genrally have a flag mask telling which processors to 
trip, Wil.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> What's the name of the purple one from MIT? I have 
it in the basement.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> ( the book, not the flag! :-) )
<[Gary] GARY-S> Excellent insight into cognitive and perception modeling
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> That's how Goddard does it.  A false leg executes as all NOP's.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> Gary have you read the Parallel FORTH article in The 
Journal off Forth Applicatons and REsearch in vol. 5 num. 4.  It was a inte
resting paper.
<[Gary] GARY-S> yes - super
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> In some ways I see parallel as being easier than 
serial. It is inherently more complex, but at the same time the fact tha
t it makes more sense in a real-world picture than serial computing, which is 
so one-dimensional.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS>  oops, hanging subordinate clause, should end 
"should make it in the long run easier to deal with."
<[Gary] GARY-S> Jax - you really need to read the two set volume I just 
mentioned
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I think I have one.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> It's purple, I forget the name, read it two years 
ago.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> I want the two-volume Parallel Prolog Papers.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Anyway, WIl, I did call Heidi and she sent me the 
goodies.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> So i'm set to go if I can swing it.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Good.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Someone asked me for a book ...
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> so I will see if they (established publisher in 
SFCA) mean it for real :-)
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> as in, pay my expenses up front.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Better.
<[Gary] GARY-S> LAST CALL for last shots gentlemen
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> Happy New Year folks!
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> "The dreams of reason bring FORTH monsters" Goya, 
as quoted by CP Snow, quoted on USENET.
<[Gary] GARY-S> Feliz Ano Nuevo
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> It was nice talking with all of you.
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Thank you all for a good conference. Sorry I had to miss 
part of it.
<[Kevin] APPERT> and to all a good night
<[Gary] GARY-S> please make this your home Irving
<[Len] NMORGENSTERN> Buenos snowshoes.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Gary you mean "Feliz An~o Nuevo.
<[Wil] W.BADEN1> Gratuitous, Jax.
<[Irving] I.MONTANEZ> I certainly will return
<[Gary] GARY-S> tnx - didn't know how to tilda the enya
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> Headline in SF Chronicle.
<[Parallel Jax] FIGCHAPTERS> It's happened to the best.
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> good night everyone
<[Dennis] D.RUFFER> ......................poof
<[Gary] GARY-S> g'nite all:***** zap***
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